Pineapple
10-05 12:19 PM
The immediate reference to illegal immigrants right after mentioning high tech workers does convey a link between the two, no matter how you slice and dice the semantics.
This is what I wrote to the editor, in response:
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Hello, Susan,
This is apropos of an article by John Harwood on the Washington Wire (October 5, 2007; Page A4), section High Tech Employers.
(See link here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119154966904949270.html?mod=googlenews_wsj )
In the article, John wrote, (I quote)
�HIGH-TECH EMPLOYERS get lift from House Republican letter to Speaker Pelosi urging passage of immigration bill to help "attract and retain" high-skilled workers. But in the poll, 56% of Republicans earning more than $75,000 annually would "strongly" or "partially" agree with candidate who would bar illegal immigrants from path to citizenship.�
The article strongly suggests a link between high tech employees and illegal immigrants. That is very far from the truth!! Almost all high skilled employees are employed legally, and there are stringent and complex rules and procedures for gaining employment legally for a high skilled person.
The woes of high skilled workers � delays of 7 to 10 years to get permanent residence in spite of following all the rules and contributing to society and taxes - are ignored by the media as well as politicians on left and right, allowing ill informed demagogues to set the agenda.
Sloppy journalism by the likes of Mr. Harwood does not help matters either. It would do him well to research the subject well before writing in a story just to beat an editorial deadline.
See www.immigrationvoice.org (http://www.immigrationvoice.org/) to see more on the issues faced by legal immigrants.
This is what I wrote to the editor, in response:
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Hello, Susan,
This is apropos of an article by John Harwood on the Washington Wire (October 5, 2007; Page A4), section High Tech Employers.
(See link here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119154966904949270.html?mod=googlenews_wsj )
In the article, John wrote, (I quote)
�HIGH-TECH EMPLOYERS get lift from House Republican letter to Speaker Pelosi urging passage of immigration bill to help "attract and retain" high-skilled workers. But in the poll, 56% of Republicans earning more than $75,000 annually would "strongly" or "partially" agree with candidate who would bar illegal immigrants from path to citizenship.�
The article strongly suggests a link between high tech employees and illegal immigrants. That is very far from the truth!! Almost all high skilled employees are employed legally, and there are stringent and complex rules and procedures for gaining employment legally for a high skilled person.
The woes of high skilled workers � delays of 7 to 10 years to get permanent residence in spite of following all the rules and contributing to society and taxes - are ignored by the media as well as politicians on left and right, allowing ill informed demagogues to set the agenda.
Sloppy journalism by the likes of Mr. Harwood does not help matters either. It would do him well to research the subject well before writing in a story just to beat an editorial deadline.
See www.immigrationvoice.org (http://www.immigrationvoice.org/) to see more on the issues faced by legal immigrants.
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vin13
07-31 02:09 PM
http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/Immigrant_Visas_30Apr08.pdf
See for your self what Pre-Adjudication means. Its literally conditional approval......
Pre-Adjudication is just a work flow method and not a policy. There is a high chance that a pre-adjudicated case may just get an approval when the visa numbers are available. But, who knows, they may have reasons to still issue an RFE requesting employment verification based on certain triggers such as change of address, over a year since case was pre-adjudicated etc.
So we may not be able to say for certain that all Pre-adjudicated cases will be approved when visa numbers are available.
See for your self what Pre-Adjudication means. Its literally conditional approval......
Pre-Adjudication is just a work flow method and not a policy. There is a high chance that a pre-adjudicated case may just get an approval when the visa numbers are available. But, who knows, they may have reasons to still issue an RFE requesting employment verification based on certain triggers such as change of address, over a year since case was pre-adjudicated etc.
So we may not be able to say for certain that all Pre-adjudicated cases will be approved when visa numbers are available.
nandakumar
05-11 12:08 PM
Even though i hope for the best but my least expectaion is to allow us to file 485 even without PD being current and exempt the family members to be included in the GC count.
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eager_immi
07-18 04:19 PM
what kind of attitude is this. If he/she is eligible to apply they should apply.
Guys who r going 2 get married and have their PD after Dec 2006 and have atleast 2 years of H1-B period left!!Y apply 485 now and wait for atleast 3 to 4 years to apply your spouses. The way I see it you can only apply your spouse's 485 when the PD becomes current again!!Instead y not wait 3 to 4 years and apply simultaneously!!Atleast give the guys who have older PD's a break!!
Guys who r going 2 get married and have their PD after Dec 2006 and have atleast 2 years of H1-B period left!!Y apply 485 now and wait for atleast 3 to 4 years to apply your spouses. The way I see it you can only apply your spouse's 485 when the PD becomes current again!!Instead y not wait 3 to 4 years and apply simultaneously!!Atleast give the guys who have older PD's a break!!
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Nil
07-02 08:19 AM
Immigration and tech: The White House speaks out | Signal Strength - CNET News (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20009420-266.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0)
superdoc
09-19 04:42 PM
There is no such thing as "invoking" AC21. Its a law. Most important thing is, your I-140 must have been approved and I-485 is pending for more then 180 days....you are Free to sail in the same or similar field.
Forget about option 2.
Everyone thank you for the quick replies...
How about if I send in Ac 21 paperwork and still be on leave of absence from my present company which sponsored my GC. It only gives me peace of mind because in case the new job does not work out I can still come back...
Forget about option 2.
Everyone thank you for the quick replies...
How about if I send in Ac 21 paperwork and still be on leave of absence from my present company which sponsored my GC. It only gives me peace of mind because in case the new job does not work out I can still come back...
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supu
04-22 12:43 AM
I also got a RFE from nabreska , but finally got approved.
Same Bsc + MCA
I think , they do approve , just waste some time and money of everyone , before they approve.
:rolleyes:
Same Bsc + MCA
I think , they do approve , just waste some time and money of everyone , before they approve.
:rolleyes:
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H1b Guy
11-15 02:12 PM
Thanks Everybody..........for your suggestion and advice......you guys are great...
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gsc999
09-22 01:06 PM
>>>>-sending more flowers
please.. enough of flowers..
>>>>-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
Now you have seen what goes and does not go into a rally. This is a complicated task so it has to be planned, as was the DC one.
>>>-candlelight vigil at congress
This will work if high school students do it. not "highly skilled" immigrants.
>>>>-mass letter mailings from all of us
Yeah.. spam them with emails..
>>>-human chains
This involves same complexity as the rally. so its not an easy task.
>>>-hunger strike?
This will be stupidity. ( I am not calling you stupid, but the idea. so no need to jump on me). Eat your food and live healty and happy. Is GC worth going on hunger strikes and suicide attempts? Thats too much of desperation. You are not from Afghanistan or Kenya right..?
>>>-etc
What else?
Oh yeah.. the "drain stoppers" stuff.. thats again stupid. Thats too much literal comparison to brain drain.
----
Ok, now that you have negated all ideas from other people, we anxiously wait for your ideas :)
I am sure you are not just some reactive person who can only criticize but can also provide us with a solution.
Lets hear em.
please.. enough of flowers..
>>>>-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
Now you have seen what goes and does not go into a rally. This is a complicated task so it has to be planned, as was the DC one.
>>>-candlelight vigil at congress
This will work if high school students do it. not "highly skilled" immigrants.
>>>>-mass letter mailings from all of us
Yeah.. spam them with emails..
>>>-human chains
This involves same complexity as the rally. so its not an easy task.
>>>-hunger strike?
This will be stupidity. ( I am not calling you stupid, but the idea. so no need to jump on me). Eat your food and live healty and happy. Is GC worth going on hunger strikes and suicide attempts? Thats too much of desperation. You are not from Afghanistan or Kenya right..?
>>>-etc
What else?
Oh yeah.. the "drain stoppers" stuff.. thats again stupid. Thats too much literal comparison to brain drain.
----
Ok, now that you have negated all ideas from other people, we anxiously wait for your ideas :)
I am sure you are not just some reactive person who can only criticize but can also provide us with a solution.
Lets hear em.
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zen
04-02 12:09 AM
Why are trying to wake up folks who are pretending that they are sleeping?
Let them pretend.
This was the same guy who said FOIA can be hung on wall like an art frame because he does not need the data. He does not care a rat's ass if you care about the data or not. When I mentioned that FOIA can also be used for making a presentation to the lawmakers on how deep the retrogression is, FOIA is ok and good. Because, it will possibly benefit him
Me! Me! Me! Me! Alllll ME!
Give me my GC IV! I will give you 25-50$ depending on my mood. What ever!
IV needs to come out with a action plan or tell what it intends to do with the donations. once they are more open, donations will flow. I know IV is non profit org but that does not mean that funds cannot be misused. (I need more red dots please :))
Let them pretend.
This was the same guy who said FOIA can be hung on wall like an art frame because he does not need the data. He does not care a rat's ass if you care about the data or not. When I mentioned that FOIA can also be used for making a presentation to the lawmakers on how deep the retrogression is, FOIA is ok and good. Because, it will possibly benefit him
Me! Me! Me! Me! Alllll ME!
Give me my GC IV! I will give you 25-50$ depending on my mood. What ever!
IV needs to come out with a action plan or tell what it intends to do with the donations. once they are more open, donations will flow. I know IV is non profit org but that does not mean that funds cannot be misused. (I need more red dots please :))
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popoye
07-08 12:01 PM
I have EAD approved and 485 pending over 180 days. But 140 is still in process. My company decided to lay me off. What options do I have ?
1. The company is not mean to revoke my 140 unless it is required by law to revoke 140 for all lay offs, Please advise.
2. What options do i have now to retain my GC process
1. The company is not mean to revoke my 140 unless it is required by law to revoke 140 for all lay offs, Please advise.
2. What options do i have now to retain my GC process
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mallu
10-24 11:11 AM
PD - EB3 from Bangladesh
i140 got approved on Sep 2007
Fingerprint Sep 2007
I have seen applicants from Bangladesh frequently getting 2 - 3 month
approvals.
i140 got approved on Sep 2007
Fingerprint Sep 2007
I have seen applicants from Bangladesh frequently getting 2 - 3 month
approvals.
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nixstor
09-15 03:16 PM
Buddy Reddy,
While I am happy for you and your success along with your spouse, I personally consider it as being at the right time in right places making decisions that were in your reach. I do agree that you did lot of planning. Most of the people here run on one income and spouses on H4/F1. So they dont have the edge you had/have. I might sound harsh in saying this but the matter of fact is that the 2 incomes lead to savings which lead to buying a home(s). 1 income, you wouldnt have done all these by yourself. I know several people with 2 incomes and most of them have done this :) Those who havent were the kind of folks who are happy having their 100K in bank rather raking up 200K in equity. I am sure there are a lot of things you can do with a US Citizenship.
IMHO, you are succesful in your own way depending on the situation you were in and how conducive the circumstances were. I feel that this forum is totally going in a direction where people are seeking some sort of solace in discussing stuff that doesnt directly relate here. Now that all of us had discussed about what we can do with a GC can we streamline our effort to what we can do to get a GC.
While I am happy for you and your success along with your spouse, I personally consider it as being at the right time in right places making decisions that were in your reach. I do agree that you did lot of planning. Most of the people here run on one income and spouses on H4/F1. So they dont have the edge you had/have. I might sound harsh in saying this but the matter of fact is that the 2 incomes lead to savings which lead to buying a home(s). 1 income, you wouldnt have done all these by yourself. I know several people with 2 incomes and most of them have done this :) Those who havent were the kind of folks who are happy having their 100K in bank rather raking up 200K in equity. I am sure there are a lot of things you can do with a US Citizenship.
IMHO, you are succesful in your own way depending on the situation you were in and how conducive the circumstances were. I feel that this forum is totally going in a direction where people are seeking some sort of solace in discussing stuff that doesnt directly relate here. Now that all of us had discussed about what we can do with a GC can we streamline our effort to what we can do to get a GC.
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belmontboy
02-15 05:29 PM
I don't see that "some" word either in the title or the content of the thread. The point is you are trying to color all companies in the bad light for your own satisfaction. I guess you work for one of the direct companies.
Coming to the point, be more sensible when you post new threads and messages on the forum. Please refer to the following thread for posting guidelines.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21847
Let us keep IV as I and V ( for everyone)
And based on what do you say that i am trying to color all companies in the bad light for my own satisfaction? My point is against all those Desi consulting employers who abuse H1.
What has my work place got to do with this discussion?? I guess you couldnot think of anything better to make a point. huh!
Yes, i have read the guidelines and i donot need any lesson from you. I am trying to enage folks here in a constructive discussion. And the point i am making is only for bad consultants who abuse H1B.
If you still think i am being biased, go figure!!!
Coming to the point, be more sensible when you post new threads and messages on the forum. Please refer to the following thread for posting guidelines.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21847
Let us keep IV as I and V ( for everyone)
And based on what do you say that i am trying to color all companies in the bad light for my own satisfaction? My point is against all those Desi consulting employers who abuse H1.
What has my work place got to do with this discussion?? I guess you couldnot think of anything better to make a point. huh!
Yes, i have read the guidelines and i donot need any lesson from you. I am trying to enage folks here in a constructive discussion. And the point i am making is only for bad consultants who abuse H1B.
If you still think i am being biased, go figure!!!
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smuggymba
12-31 11:11 PM
So does this mean I am stuck with Company A till I get Garbage Can I mean GC ?
Why are you calling it a garbage can when you are destroying your life after it and getting depressed and stuff?
Why are you calling it a garbage can when you are destroying your life after it and getting depressed and stuff?
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ArunAntonio
07-09 02:57 PM
The core IV objective is "The mission of Immigration Voice is to organize grassroots efforts and resources to solve several problems in the employment based green card process including (a) delays due to Retrogression (visa number unavailability for certain employment-based categories) (b) delays due to USCIS processing backlogs and (c) delays due to Labor Certification backlogs. "
and that is exactly what this effort is about. It is a different and fresh approach. This is a grassroots effort which aims at educating and making people aware of our problems. what is it that you dont agree with this approach?
I agree. There is no point in this. I am really afrid that we are moving away from core abjective of IV. why we are getting inthis fiasco, there is no value in this
and that is exactly what this effort is about. It is a different and fresh approach. This is a grassroots effort which aims at educating and making people aware of our problems. what is it that you dont agree with this approach?
I agree. There is no point in this. I am really afrid that we are moving away from core abjective of IV. why we are getting inthis fiasco, there is no value in this
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micofrost
05-13 05:13 PM
Why cant you guys understand, we have no right to demand.
Lot of people , who otherwise would have qualified for Eb2 went ahead with EB3. First of all why did you you agree to it. Because, that time, that was something easy to get instead of changing it to EB2. That was the fight under your control. Not the one you are asking for.
Someone rightly said, you need one scientist,2 qualified/experience guys and 6 eb3 guys to do actual work. A right pyramid for an organisation.
But how can you miss govt. requirement. They need more PhDs. So they are asking us to do more study, earn more higher advanced degrees because thats what they need. Not our so called BE/Btech degree. In another 4-5 years, I wont be surprised, if only guys with masters will be only allowed to apply, if they find equal number of master graduates. Who cares for ordinary graduates. EB3 min qual will be raised to Masters with 5 years experience. What will be your say then ?
So look ahead and act accordingly. Make sure you can anticpate their moves. Its not a rocket science. 6-7 years back, there wasnt much application for EB category. But looking at the last year number, I wont be suprised, if they decide to raise the criteria bar. Simple, and all backlogs will be over. The reason they are not doing this because they still need eb3/eb2. But not in quantity, you would like them to but rather what they would like to have.
As far as country uota is concerned, everyone knows China and India, over populous contry. You increase the number to a million, and that would also fall short. But then they do not want so many people from a single country, as it will have a lot of political ramification in the future.
Lot of people , who otherwise would have qualified for Eb2 went ahead with EB3. First of all why did you you agree to it. Because, that time, that was something easy to get instead of changing it to EB2. That was the fight under your control. Not the one you are asking for.
Someone rightly said, you need one scientist,2 qualified/experience guys and 6 eb3 guys to do actual work. A right pyramid for an organisation.
But how can you miss govt. requirement. They need more PhDs. So they are asking us to do more study, earn more higher advanced degrees because thats what they need. Not our so called BE/Btech degree. In another 4-5 years, I wont be surprised, if only guys with masters will be only allowed to apply, if they find equal number of master graduates. Who cares for ordinary graduates. EB3 min qual will be raised to Masters with 5 years experience. What will be your say then ?
So look ahead and act accordingly. Make sure you can anticpate their moves. Its not a rocket science. 6-7 years back, there wasnt much application for EB category. But looking at the last year number, I wont be suprised, if they decide to raise the criteria bar. Simple, and all backlogs will be over. The reason they are not doing this because they still need eb3/eb2. But not in quantity, you would like them to but rather what they would like to have.
As far as country uota is concerned, everyone knows China and India, over populous contry. You increase the number to a million, and that would also fall short. But then they do not want so many people from a single country, as it will have a lot of political ramification in the future.
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immigrant2007
07-02 10:45 PM
Please do not discontinue this thread. Understand the importance of it and think about it
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gaz
04-20 12:01 PM
it is the job profile that dictates whether the case is eb2 or eb3 - the applicant should meet the criteria for the job. not the other way around.
My advice to most people who do not perfectly fit into eb2 is to do the eb3 petition first (which is guaranteed to be approved). Get your place in line for the greencard.
If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.
However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied. Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)
My advice to most people who do not perfectly fit into eb2 is to do the eb3 petition first (which is guaranteed to be approved). Get your place in line for the greencard.
If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.
However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied. Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)
n_2006
11-15 02:21 PM
Most of companies are like that. Only listing few companies on website does not help. Candidates should be aware of all the scenarios and think about difference scenarios.
here is what i suggest:
create a yahoo group or blog..and have ppl publish the name anonymously of the desi bloodsuckers...some kind of activism is required..instead of coming on this board like some ballless buggers and crying like babies...grow up and take back ur life...bytch..;-)
btw..i am not in IT so..i dont have to deal with suck suckers.. i have read so many posts abt this.. i am fed up..
here is what i suggest:
create a yahoo group or blog..and have ppl publish the name anonymously of the desi bloodsuckers...some kind of activism is required..instead of coming on this board like some ballless buggers and crying like babies...grow up and take back ur life...bytch..;-)
btw..i am not in IT so..i dont have to deal with suck suckers.. i have read so many posts abt this.. i am fed up..
svgupta
05-22 07:36 PM
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